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Posted: 2011-07-05 |
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Hello, As I get more comfortable with PyroCMS, I'm really liking it. I've been using Joomla for a couple of years, and I'm happy to report that I can replace most of Joomla's functions with greater elegance in PyroCMS. But there is one vast area I need to conquer... e-commerce! Joomla has several e-commerce plugins. Most of them are terrible, I've managed to hack one of them to work fairly well (not my favorite way to do things). I'm hoping there is a more elegant way to do e-commerce with PyroCMS. Which e-commerce system do people here like to use? Are there any plans for an e-commerce Add-on for PyroCMS, perhaps like the ones available for ExpressionEngine? Thanks, Matthew |
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Posted: 2011-07-05 |
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Magento is a good one, very stable profitable marketable and manageable, a lot of payment integration and customizations available, would be great if PyroCMS would have something similar) | ||
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Posted: 2011-07-05 |
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Hello, I've used Magento a bit and it is pretty good. For general e-commerce systems (open-source) I really like OpenCart. The trick for me always is how to integrate it into the site I'm building. I was wondering if anyone here has found an e-commerce system that they think plays better with Pyro. Of course, a native Pyro e-commerce add-on would be great, but I know this would be a very big effort. Thanks, Matthew |
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Posted: 2011-07-06 |
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I have a few clients and contacts often asking me for e-Commerce solutions but nobody can ever tell me specifically what they want. If I could get a good feature set written up then I'd be happy to work on an Add-on, or find somebody to make it, but I need to know what code I'm writing. | ||
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Posted: 2011-07-06 |
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Phil, Wow, Phil, I'm very impressed with your approach. Just knowing that the developer of PyroCMS is personally invlved in this kind of discussion is tremendously positive. I'd be willing to help out any way I can -- pitch in documentation support, band together with others to finance this. Having a strong e-commerce add-on could really be a huge gain for PyroCMS. I've been dealing with e-commerce enough to outline a wish list of capabilities. At the immediate level (just having these would be outstanding): 1. Create products on the back end with attributes like price, variants (prices for different options), weight and size, item name, description, and photos 2. Save attributes as PyroCMS product tags 3. Display product pages using PyroCMS Pages/Layouts using the product tags 4. Allow physical as well as digital products 5. Apply taxes (at least for US states) by picking up a shopper's location from an order form 6. Apply shipping charges 7. Tie into PayPal from the site At a slightly higher level (enter the realm of truly awesome): 8. Build on the PyroCMS registrations (visitors can enter payment information in the registration form) 9. Enter "related items" as an attribute/product tag when creating products (see #1) 10. Create discounts (coupon codes, etc) that shoppers can apply At an even higher level (shoot into the stratosphere): 11. Tie into the UPS API to automatically figure out shipping based on weight (entered above) and delivery zone 12. Credit card gateways After a lot of searching, the system I like the most is OpenCart. However, it doesn't integrate into other CMSs, because the developers aim is for it to be a CMS in its own right. If I sound really excited about this, it's because of my history. Again, I come from the Joomla world, where the options are truly terrible. The only good thing about that is it has forced me to research all kinds of options. Anyway, I'd be really curious about the prospects for such a project and what I could do to get involved. Thanks, Matthew |
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Posted: 2011-07-08 |
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So would I. I also am heavily involved with Joomla but my main reasons for looking at various other CMS platforms is: cost to develop site as well as recurring costs to my clients (small businesses), the ability to use html templates. After a while each template developer's creations all start looking the same & again the recurring costs can kill a clients pocket. It has been so expensive for me to try out extensions to use, not to mention alot of time keeping them all updated. I have two clients that will be needing a ecommerce component. I am not a developer but I would be willing to help write documentation. Lisa |
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Posted: 2011-07-10 |
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Lisa, Like you, I've been using Joomla. I've gone really far using that CMS. But PyroCMS seems to have potential to surpass Joomla if it keeps its elegance and adds a bit more power. Just to clarify: I'm not looking for "easy to use." I can deal with a complex system. I'm looking for "logical to use." To me, PyroCMS has that. PyroCMS is the only "advanced" CMS I've discovered whose management logic just makes perfect sense upon viewing it.* In my short but intense foray into PyroCMS, I see two capabilities to build its power: 1. A native PyroCMS e-commerce system 2. A content-creation system Since it's built on CodeIgniter, it seems that almost anything is possible with the right expertise and support. I don't have the PHP skills to develop these things. But I'm willing to pay to have them developed. From what I've seen of the PyroCMS core, I'm confident it would be worthwhile to invest in developing these two capabilities. Even better if what gets developed could be open-source, so it can continue to improve. I'd be very interested in discussing a way to move forward on this with the PyroCMS developers and other PyroCMS users. Are other people interested in the two capabilities I mentioned above? Thanks, Matthew |
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Posted: 2011-07-10 |
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I agree 100%, Matthew To me logical to use makes it easier to use. I can usually figure out complex systems but teaching them to my clients can be a bear! So I need a system that I feel comfortable handing over to my clients with limited technology knowledge. One of the reasons I started with Joomla in the first place was the wide variety of extensions available. I think this system could go even further as more developers create extensions. E-commerce is one of the most asked for capabilities especially for small businesses looking to get online that dont have the budget to hire their own coders. I am going to continue to try this one out. So far I like it but I need for functionality for my clients. Lisa |
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Posted: 2011-07-11 |
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Being a newcomer to the world of Pyrocms its good to hear that the developer is keen to develop this fantastic system further. Personally I've used a system called ecwid which is embedded into a page with a simple piece of javascript code (under 100 products and its free, over that and there's a nominal monthly fee). Behind the scenes is where the magic happens though, you can see how straightforward it is to add a category and product and how the cart works - I've embedded the cart successfully into a template and it works a treat - and it pretty much does what Matthew suggested, so it may help plan possible functionality. The only real downside with ecwid is that its hosted on their server, so if they go pop - so does your (or your clients) shop. Something like this as an add-on to Pyrocms would certainly put it ahead of a lot of other CMS. P.S. I've got nothing to do with ecwid, just thought I'd share it with you all! |
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Posted: 2011-07-11 |
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DaDog, Coming from Joomla, I have had a chance to test out the ecwid plugin for that CMS. It is smooth, which I like, but it worries me to have something as important as client information and organization of shop items and database stored on someone else's system. But you're right that the capabilities of ecwid could be a model for something in PyroCMS. I again want to emphasize how nicely OpenCart works. If you have chance, jump over and take a look: http://www.opencart.com I have no association with OpenCart. I just appreciate a system that is designed so intelligently and logically (like PyroCMS). Thanks, Matthew |
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